RE: defense

[Joel Gunderson <belgarat@expert.cc.purdue.edu>]

I've gotta go with Lyle on this one.  Smacking rapidly moving missiles out
of the air with a melee weapon is VERY difficult.  Especially when the
missile has such a low profile like a crossbow bolt.  Also, I know I would
not be balsy enough to stand in front of a crossbow bolt flying at me just
because I thought I might have a chance in hell of knocking it out of the
air.  Like Lyle said, those people are also ready and waiting to beat
whatever missile is flying at them out of the air.  The only weapon I
could possibly see adding to MDV is a shield, since it already adds in
normal use.

Joel

On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Lyle H Janney wrote:

> But as I was pointing out, guys, if you make the 6 dice roll
> against your weapon skill and keep the +12 CDV/GDV until
> your done with it, why can't your opponent just make a 6
> dice roll and keep his +12 to hit until he's killed you?  Or,
> better yet, he's a kick-butt warrior with a magic weapon
> and can hit your 30 CDV 70% of the time, so he just rolls
> 6 dice against his skill and cuisinart's you until you are dead,
> then moves on to your party-mates and keeps up the flurry.
> Hey, why should he have to re-roll just because the combat
> situation has changed; you didn't have to re-roll, right?
> 
> Oh, just read your post, Steve.  Glad to see you agree.
> 
> Now about weapon DV's adding to missile defense; sorry, but
> I just don't concur.  _Not_ having the weapon defense sub-
> skill apply to MDV is _not_ an exception, it fits right in with the
> fact that the weapon doesn't affect MDV to begin with.  Also,
> I can't really agree with your point that weapons should apply
> to MDV.  Sure, people today 'can' it baseballs and people today
> 'can' knock down thrown weapons or arrows, but I have to argue
> that those people are: a) ready and waiting to do so, and b) not
> in the direct line of fire of the missile.  I'm sorry, but I just cannot
> see Joe Cuisinart calmly noting 2 opponents loading bows as
> he dices up one of the 3 brigands trying to steal his purse so he
> gets a little more defensive and as he swings twice to severely
> damage the second brigand in front of him, he also swings his
> blade up and out just in time to split the two arrows, tip to notch,
> on the edge of his blade.  Nope, don't see it.  Heck, I can't even
> see Sammy Sosa knocking a ball out of the air that is heading
> right toward his face, much less hitting it out of the park.  Sorry.
> 
> Lyle
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steve Ames [SMTP:steve@ns1.cioe.com]
> Sent:	Friday, October 02, 1998 9:43 AM
> To:	khelek@ns1.cioe.com; steve@ns1.cioe.com
> Cc:	gmlist@cioe.com
> Subject:	Re: defense
> 
> > Not if I some how manage to pull off that +12DV bonus. =) I'll stick with
> > my 1 attack each round for awhile. ;)
> 
> Right... and this forces your opponent to _HAVE_ to go for that precise
> attack to achieve parity, which means he can't by multi-attacking your ass.
> Killers will be able to stand toe-toe with killers longer and be less
> susceptible to those less adept with their chosen weapon.
> 
> A defensive person should buy up the dagger skill to its MAX so they can
> up their DVs :)
> 
> 						-Steve
> 
>