RE: defense

[Greg Mowczko <mooch@ns1.cioe.com>]

> From: Joel Gunderson <belgarat@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
>
> I've gotta go with Lyle on this one.  Smacking rapidly moving missiles out
> of the air with a melee weapon is VERY difficult.  Especially when the
> missile has such a low profile like a crossbow bolt.  Also, I know I would
> not be balsy enough to stand in front of a crossbow bolt flying at me just
> because I thought I might have a chance in hell of knocking it out of the
> air.  Like Lyle said, those people are also ready and waiting to beat
> whatever missile is flying at them out of the air.  The only weapon I
> could possibly see adding to MDV is a shield, since it already adds in
> normal use.
>
> Joel

The reason the shield has an MDV is it is a large surface to block with.
As for the knoking arrows out of the air there are people on Letterman
and Leno who make a living catching arrows shot from bows as well as
crossbows. ( Not that I'm saying its more than one at a time and that is
something they train ALOT to do ). 

						Greg
> On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Lyle H Janney wrote:
>
> > But as I was pointing out, guys, if you make the 6 dice roll
> > against your weapon skill and keep the +12 CDV/GDV until
> > your done with it, why can't your opponent just make a 6
> > dice roll and keep his +12 to hit until he's killed you?  Or,
> > better yet, he's a kick-butt warrior with a magic weapon
> > and can hit your 30 CDV 70% of the time, so he just rolls
> > 6 dice against his skill and cuisinart's you until you are dead,
> > then moves on to your party-mates and keeps up the flurry.
> > Hey, why should he have to re-roll just because the combat
> > situation has changed; you didn't have to re-roll, right?
> > 
> > Oh, just read your post, Steve.  Glad to see you agree.
> > 
> > Now about weapon DV's adding to missile defense; sorry, but
> > I just don't concur.  _Not_ having the weapon defense sub-
> > skill apply to MDV is _not_ an exception, it fits right in with the
> > fact that the weapon doesn't affect MDV to begin with.  Also,
> > I can't really agree with your point that weapons should apply
> > to MDV.  Sure, people today 'can' it baseballs and people today
> > 'can' knock down thrown weapons or arrows, but I have to argue
> > that those people are: a) ready and waiting to do so, and b) not
> > in the direct line of fire of the missile.  I'm sorry, but I just cannot
> > see Joe Cuisinart calmly noting 2 opponents loading bows as
> > he dices up one of the 3 brigands trying to steal his purse so he
> > gets a little more defensive and as he swings twice to severely
> > damage the second brigand in front of him, he also swings his
> > blade up and out just in time to split the two arrows, tip to notch,
> > on the edge of his blade.  Nope, don't see it.  Heck, I can't even
> > see Sammy Sosa knocking a ball out of the air that is heading
> > right toward his face, much less hitting it out of the park.  Sorry.
> > 
> > Lyle
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Steve Ames [SMTP:steve@ns1.cioe.com]
> > Sent:	Friday, October 02, 1998 9:43 AM
> > To:	khelek@ns1.cioe.com; steve@ns1.cioe.com
> > Cc:	gmlist@cioe.com
> > Subject:	Re: defense
> > 
> > > Not if I some how manage to pull off that +12DV bonus. =) I'll stick with
> > > my 1 attack each round for awhile. ;)
> > 
> > Right... and this forces your opponent to _HAVE_ to go for that precise
> > attack to achieve parity, which means he can't by multi-attacking your ass.
> > Killers will be able to stand toe-toe with killers longer and be less
> > susceptible to those less adept with their chosen weapon.
> > 
> > A defensive person should buy up the dagger skill to its MAX so they can
> > up their DVs :)
> > 
> > 						-Steve
> > 
> > 
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