Re: Question

[Wright Frazier <khelek@ns1.cioe.com>]

First lets take a look at what you said that set me off.
 "Sound okay to you?  (You gotta remember that it isn't that any of
 us want to reneg on our commitments, its just that many of us actually
 have to produce work related things while at work as opposed to being
 able to produce all sorts of game related things; capiche?)"

That is pretty pointed and insulting Lyle.  May be I did read more into it,
but it truely came across as you saying "Well you people are loosers and
don't have to do anything at work."  That is as you put it, 'bad form'.

As for why I chose to straight reply to this in public.  Power play? I
think not.  I'm just sick of the attitude, and others are as well.  I like
the ideas you put forth, when did i ever say i didn't?  I just do not
like appreciate the haughty superiority that you always attempt to
convey.  I was hoping that was the point you'd get out of this, but
obviously you didn't.

> In my memory, I've only made the one comment about having to work
> while at work, at yet you came down on me as if I had been hounding
> you about not having to work and perhaps even backstabbing you.  Bad
> form, Wright.  Very bad form.  It is also very bad form for you not to care
> how people will react to your attacks; that strikes me as a tantrum.

First comment? nope, you've made several before on the gmlist.  If I really
gotta, I'll dig'em up, they should be in my archiving box.
 

> 
> As regards asking for help, I have twice solicited ideas for incants, to no
> avail.  Now, I don't know about these "boasts in the past to have finished
> this over 3 weeks ago", but I told you I would have a good framework for
> business and economics by the 15th and I will.  You are just going to have
> to accept that Geleia will continue to evolve as we play, and so will the
> ideas and systems we implement.  I will not present anything as final until
> it has been play-tested for quite some time and for you to expect me, or
> anyone, to do otherwise is unrealistic and unfair to the players and the
> campaign as a whole.

You originally told me that by mid july you'd have the economics thing done.
I believe the statement was to the effect of "Yeah, I'll have it for you
in two weeks."  This was because Keith Klumb had been wanting to start
a business in Geleia, but i'd been delaying him until that information
was drawn up by you.

Hell the incants are purely secondary and not of importance.  its the
economic system we need.  keith wants to start a new business and
several older players need it for their businesses.  less we wanna just
keep with the dump money in, get money out no ifs or problems thing.

Granted this is not an easy subject to write up, but its not that
difficult, and nothing an hour or two with a calculator wouldn't readily
solve.  

As for the power play thing? what?  I honestly don't see it.  Granted I
prolly reacted too harshly, but it still applies about the attitude
in which you post, dude.

Wright


> 
> I encourage you, Wright, and anyone else for that matter, to respond to
> this note with your own thoughts, concerns, ideas, apprehensions, etc.
> Only by communicating with one another can we hope to understand
> each other, and thus, integrate all our ideas into a cohesive campaign.
> 
> Lyle
> 
>