Re: Holy Symbols

["Kris Ames" <kris@cioe.com>]

How about Dan or someone come up with the standard holy symbols
then.  Maybe an artistic type could draw them, Dan approve them, and
Dan give that person extra epps.

The only religion that I would guess does not have a standard symbol
would be Orus (to many strong feelings one way or another).

-Kris

----------
> From: Lyle H Janney <lhjanney@adpc.purdue.edu>
> To: AQ Moderators List (orig) (E-mail) <gmlist@cioe.com>
> Subject: RE: Holy Symbols
> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 8:22 AM
> 
> While it certainly adds flavor to the game to have different
symbols
> for the various regions/sects of a specific deity, I think I need
to raise
> a flag here.  I only have two points to make.  Succinctly:
> 
> 1)  As has been mentioned before, we should not do something just
> for the sake of doing it.  I feel that the flavor added by using
different
> symbols is easily overborne by the confusion that will be
introduced
> as a result.  By confusion, I am referring to the fact that
everyone,
> especially new players, will now have to keep lists of holy
symbols
> on hand so they know what sect they are dealing with at any
particular
> time.  Also, let's say that I follow Anubis and don't want to
align myself
> with any particular sect, what symbol do I wear?  Hence, we should
> not add this complication _just_ for the sake of added flavor.
> 
> 2)  Every major religion today has many different sects and
sub-sects.
> However, _all_ Christians view the Cross as their symbol, _all_
Jews
> view the Star of David as their symbol, etc.  Please do not try to
argue
> that they would have different symbols as a result of internal
schism;
> that argument will not fly.  Just look at the Protestants and the
Catholics
> in Great Britain; same 'holy symbol' yet much killing of each
other despite
> their common deity.  Wright, please feel free to point out other
historical
> support for my argument; I know there is quite a bit of it, but
I'm not the
> history major here.
> 
> In summary, the only justification I can think of to have
different symbols
> is for added flavor, but the resulting added confusion, I feel,
completely
> outweighs that single benefit.
> 
> However, a great way (I feel) to add that flavor without muddling
up the
> core symbol used by the followers of a Deity can also be taken
from
> modern religion.  Certainly each sect would have different
'trappings';
> different ceremonial vestments, different dogma, subtle
differences in
> holy text translation (I could easily see an entirely different
sect of Neptune
> being founded as a result of translating their holy text into
Dwarvish), etc..
> While I am referring to 'modern' religion, I am certain that
Wright can
> substantiate that my argument holds true even as far back as
before the
> 'birth' of Christianity.  How many different ways have each of the
ancient
> Roman, Greek, and Egyptian deities been worshiped?
> 
> On a related topic, is Scrogg dedicated strictly to fornication or
no?  If not,
> then his symbol should just simply not be a phallus.  Such a
symbol would
> just be an added 'trapping' of those followers of Scrogg who
focused on
> that aspect of Scrogg; but not all followers would have need of
that trapping.
> So, since this deity is strictly local anyway, if he is not
strictly dedicated to
> fornication, can we change his symbol to something a little more
in line with
> the true nature of that religion?
> 
> Lyle
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Wright Frazier [SMTP:khelek@ns1.cioe.com]
> 
> My personal view is that they are regional and/or by sect.  In
geleia
> the orthodox anubians use a stylized jackles head crossed with a
> sword.  The reformed use the standard sideways A, unless I come up
> with something better.
> 
> An order of holy warriors of neptune use the symbol of a wave
cresting
> over a trident for their symbol.
> 
> The few priests of scrogg in geleia don't go around with a penis
hanging
> from their necks.  They'll use something different as soon as I
get around
> to figuring out what.
> 
> anyways, you get the idea.  i think it should definately be by
region
> and/or sect.
> 
> Wright
>