Re: A look at defense values (maxes?)

[Steve Ames <steve@ns1.cioe.com>]

> *nod* I agree with Matt, a limit on DVs is not at all necessary.
> As for magical items. *nod* I agree.  However not totally.   Minor
> charged things I can see being quite possible.  A ring with 1
> charge of fireballs costs what? 4800 xp?  I'd make one if I
> was a firemage and had the stuff to do so because having a spare
> fireball to toss around in a bad situation is REALLY handy.

Teresium is _RARE_. I haven't built an item in a while, but I
think it costs the same in teresium to build regenerating and
single use... which way do you really go? There's two resources
that are being used here: teresium and eeps. No offense to the
mages, but eeps are regenerating, teresium isn't. I don't think
you'll see a lot of charged items unless there is a way (in the
system) to recharge the items without using teresium.

> Its the plethora of effect spells that just aren't weapon charm
> and armor charm that I have a problem with.  *shrug* I've given out
> a huge number of minor magical items and armor...by far the majority
> of items I've given out.  Granted with the current system(new system
> needed?) their creation should be near impossible, but I think of
> weapon and armour charm as being in a different class of magical items.
> A +1 dagger while nearly the same spell rank as a fireball just does
> not return the bang for the buck as a 4/day fireball item.  With
> a 4/day fireball item, you can level a small village without a
> lot of problem, with a +1 dagger, you can really annoy an orc.

Which is why no one is going to build the +1 dagger :) The dagger
is an effect item (probably) and the fireball is recharging (and
hence cheaper to build... ok maybe not for 4 times a day, but two
definately). Mages aren't stupid. The creation system is their
ruleset and the _MUST_ play to it and maximize.

> honestly rather see 10 +1 daggers given out, than a ring of 2/day
> fireball.  The fireball just has a far greater effect, same for items
> of divine word, miracle, halt time, etc..

Change the system to favor the creation of these items... make
weapon chant rank 1 like minibolt... 1d6 autohit, or a temporary
+1 to hit/damage. *shrug* Something has to change or the magic item
distribution would become even more artificial.

						-Steve