RE: Nexus-remove

[Greg Mowczko <mooch>]

Hmmmm... Wasn't involved since I was on Andy's game but I have some
comments that are spread through this responce. BTW the other people
who got a message of the upcoming flooding of Karfelon were the Torites
( since it was renegade Torites who caused the problem ).

First I have the question in responce to a statement in some other message
not included here. New portals are immediately revocated? Does this extend
to all things the Nexus would suck up? If you Giant stride does it just not
work? When the nexus went into effect if you giant strided from just outside
West End ( the limits of the Nexus effect ) to just inside the area you
would end up coming outside the portal. And if this effect stops new portals
from being put up does this effect expire in 25 game years since it was
stated that the Forlani where expelled from the world for 25 years.

So to restate that question:
	Can new portals/otherworlds be made?

and the followup question:
	If not for how long? ( "forever" or some time )

> From: Michael Kilgore <m.a.kilgore@worldnet.att.net>
>
> My biggest bitch on the whole series of events last night was there was no 
> warning or consensus of the other GMs who have a stake in the Nexus.  This 
> should be a decision that should be made by the campaign coordinator.  In 
> the light that we don't really have a campaign coordinator, I think this 
> was something that should have been brought up with the other active GMs on 
> this forum.  Basically, you have effectively fragmented the club some 
> people have said that they are not coming back some people are 
> contemplating spinoff campaigns because of this.

No one but Adventurers have a stake in the otherworld. GMs have worlds that
were accessable from there. The worlds weren't destroyed just the most
convienient way to get there.

> I think that you are confusing me with Andrew.  I run Atalia adventures. 
>  Atalia is something that I have been working on for the past seven years 
> as a hobby.  The reason I introduced it was so that I can develop it some 
> more.  It seems to me that you are wanting to make things such that if I 
> want to continue with this, I will need to ship people out 200 mets (which 
> can take about one or two days depending on if the ship is willing to 
> travel at night) so that they can get to a portal to Atalia or make my own 
> spin-off.  Both of which makes things very inconvient for me.

OK need I point out 200 mets is West End. This would not take days to reach.
When Dan first brought the Portal into play he gave the limits of its effects
and West End ( which should really be where we run from since it is a coastal
city without any portal generated "problems" ) along with East End are outside
the limits.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brandon Stenger [SMTP:bh010296@prodigy.net]
>
> > From Andrew M. Luers
> >
> > I AM NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >     A GM, who GM,s less than once every two mouths has destoryed the
> > Nexus, and gone back into time to make HIS DEAD PC (again HIS DEAD PC) ,
> > and the god, Tarus alive and well.
>
> A) I see the frequency of my GMing to be of no relevance in this 
> discussion.

Correct

> B) While the character was at one time my PC, I do not have any intention
> of playing him again as such. I BRIEFLY considered the idea and quickly
> discarded it. I had planned to use him as an actor, but if that is going
> to ruffle too many feathers, I simply won't do it.

Don't care.

> C) At no time during last night's game was it ever said that Tarus was
> alive. In fact, it was specifically stated that he was dead, but with
> warning, some of his priests (at least in the Rougtero area) were able
> to avoid/defeat the death squads. I can understand how it would be
> difficult for you to have caught this detail, as you weren't actually
> playing in the game you are commenting on.

How is it there is a temple still? I seem to recall them being hunted down
and killed for rewards by hit squads. Sure if they knew of their soon to
come disfavor they could fortify somewhat but the people collecting on the
hides of the Taurusians are quite persistant. FYI.

> >     I don't know what I have the most problem with after the fact the
> > OLD campaign
> > coordinator, Dan know and let him do it. It was bad as is, that Dan was
> > allowed anywhere near the newbie games. I will not go into that old
> > fight.

What are you spewing on Andy? I don't recall much conversation at all about
letting Dan run the newbies. I have no problem with it.

> >     The way this was done with the bad guy(s) only neededing a Otherwold
> > portal and a box to kill eveything, ( again EVERYTHING on Jaern ),was
> > very badly done. Please make note that they did not needed the Nexus at
> > all.
>
> Again, had you actually been playing in the game, you might understand why
> they needed the Nexus, or that they created the Nexus, or that this is a
> standard tactic for their race.
>
> >     Once the gods get word of this, I realy can not see then letting any
> > such portals work. I don't see other worlds haveing them work as well.

Our gods aren't Omnipotent, hell they can't even keep themselves from being
killed. Rule #1 of being a god = NO personal appearances. If you must be
seen give the some sort of Holographic image with feedback dampners (sp?) so
it can't be used as a way to get some death power back to you.

> >     This  in turn, kills ALL off world game(s) and campaign(s) like
> > mine. I and other GM's have made the Nexus work. It is funny to me that
> > my bad guy's had to deal with the Gods before distorying worlds. I did
> > it that way becuase it should not be easly to distory a world.
> >
> >     This is a call for a "it did not really happen ruleing" from the
> > other GM's. I can not see letting one game start us fighting again. I
> > was asked nicely not to make waves and start the fighting back up over
> > Dan GM'ing the newbies. I will point out it is DAN, who started this
> > wave by going way to over the top once again. Dan , I hope you work with
> > the other GM's into makeing this right. I like you and enjoy seeing you
> > at the games. Hopefuly this well not go back to the old newsgroup
> > fights.
> >
> An "it did not really happen ruling?" Since when do we go back and edit
> the events of the campaign just because we don't like them? I understand
> that you have put a lot of effort into your adventures through the Nexus.

Hmmm. Don't like the concept unless the game is selfenclosed and all a dream
but that ticks me off some as well. 

> I personally feel that there is a multitude of interesting things to do
> on Jaern, moreso than ever now that the Nexus is gone. The people of
> Rougtero will have to deal with the loss in commerce, the decrease in
> food supply, the pirates...and I'm sure there are any number of things
> in the wings that I am not aware of. Jaern and Rougtero have always been,
> at the least, "interesting."
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Andrew M. Luers
>						[Brandon]


Rougtero just got less interesting if you can't have portals anywhere near
it just popping up.

							Greg