> AP 1 did indeed advocate increasing DVs ... has it been withdrawn? It increased the missile defense of base chainmail by _1_. Why? because it is much better against piercing weapons than a 1. > AP1 put plate at a dv of 8, 2DV higher than 6 Can't you read? Steel plate is an 8...Iron plate is a 6 in the proposal. No change in DVs except for the 1 to chainmail. Wright