Re: Here it comes (Was Re: New Plan)

[Steve Ames <steve@ns1.cioe.com>]

> > pathetic groups ever assembled. I've had self righteous GMs shut down
> > entire plot lines of mine based on player rumor (Dan, Lyle?). I've had 
>
> Isn't Dan the Campaign Moderator? i.e. he CAN
>
> Did you approach him and talk about it? as suggested above?

What is this? Isn't this the kind of shit that I just advocated shouldn't
be spewed in public? You are unaware of the situation and it doesn't
really concern you.

In fact the option to talk was not presented. Dan and Lyle ran
adventures that deliberately whacked all of my plot lines with
that acknowledged goal. Why stir this stuff up John? What good
can it serve?

> You have/had a HIRUDO ... you know, the character in the book prefaced by
> (paraphrased) PLAYERS CAN'T PLAY THESE!  Regardless of legitimacy behind
> your playing it, to all appearances you appear to be
> bending/torquing/breaking the rules because they expressly say NO.

Dan made my character a Hirudo. Again you are ignorant of the situation.

> Add to it the "local rules" that are added to the Centralia setting or the
> "Hirudo write ups," or "special defensive skill" that fairly regularly pop
> up in non Centralia games, and you wonder WHY people may have issue.

What "local rules" are these? Care to substantiate? The Hirudo writeup
was submitted to Dan way over a year ago and posted to this list. What
special defnesive skill are you talking about?

This is the kind of rumor mongering that causes problem. I think you
just labeled yourself part of the problem and not the solution.

> If you want to have localized rules for your setting
> If you have the permission of the campaign moderator (regardless of WHO it
> is)
> If you keep the local rules LOCAL ie NOT SPILLING INTO OTHER GM's GAMES
>
> I got no problem with that.  It's not my cup of tea, but it's not a
> problem.

In point of fact, you are totally fucked up on this.

> HERE'S the problem:
>
> Those most visible Torquing the existing rules are among the most vocal of
> the advocates on this group calling for rule consistancy through finalized
> modification.

Show me one rules torqe that I have committed. Go ahead.

> The cynic in me wants to believe this is so the torqued rulings may stand
> as cannon.
>
> The rest of the person hopes this is not true.

*snicker*

> Dan is campaign manager because the club voted him into that postion.
> Allah did not rule it so, he did not part the Red Sea, He did not inherit
> the throne.
>
> THE CLUB voted Dan into a postion that THE CLUB understood involved being
> in AUTHORITY over the GMs

Umm... when did this happen? Should I call the secretary and have the
minutes checked?

> > I think this thread should be dropped. No good will come of it.
>
> Then why are you continuing it with this post?

And you with this one?

> If I have a serious problem ... I doubt anyone on the list thinks I would
> not let whomever the problem was with not know about it.

I do.

> Shouldn't the club officers be involved (read as RUNNING) a big portion of
> this, especially the administration stuff?

No. I don't think so. The club is not connected to the campaign and we
are discussing campaign activities. The club handles such issues as
getting rooms, deciding which groups to allow access to their rooms,
should dues be collected, activites carnival, where to spend money,
etc...

These are strictly campaign matters and have no bearing on the club as
they would work just as well without them. Don't confuse the two.

I haven't read the rest of my email yet, but I hope someone else jumps
on John about this posting. It was uncalled for and directly insulting
without any shred of evidence to backup any of his wild accusations. In
other words, the exact behavior that himself and others are condemning.

					-steve