Re: Elisina

[Joel Gunderson <belgarat@expert.cc.purdue.edu>]

Hey, whoah, I thought this was a game.  Anyway, who cares?  She's alive, a
GM ran it (i think), and it wasn't you, Lyle.  Not to mention the fact
that we don't grandfather rulings, and there's nothing we can do about it
now.  By the way, if you make things harder on Kris' character as a GM due
to the fact you don't agree with the ruling, I will no longer consider you
a senior GM.

Joel


On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Kris Ames wrote:

> Okay Lyle,
> 
> 1.  I didn't lightening bolt anyone or do a SINGLE POINT OF DAMAGE
> TO ANYONE IN THE PARTY. No lightening bolts were cast by me.
> 
> 2.  The oh so lovely adventurers and an actor who murdered me
> decided to dump the body overboard then changed you minds and tried
> to grab it back when you realized that Difuge, Carl and Dom were
> outside.  Carl grabbed the body went immaterial and left.
> 
> 3.  You were actually the ones making a mockery of the mission
> because you kept accusing party members of being hirudo and knew
> nothing about anyone.  These accusations were made because PLAYERS
> not characters knew that a couple of the people on the mission have
> played Hirudo.  Talk about taking out of game knowledge and
> abusing/using it.  My CHARACTER viewed this as crap and using
> phantasmal water transmogrify made herself look like a CHARICATURE
> of a Hirudo (BIG pointy teeth, pasty complexion...etc all cartoon
> style).
> 
> 4.  The only reason Elesina "died" is because
> 	a.  She refused to kill a bunch of innocents to get out of a bad
> situation (these same innocents later held the sword against her
> throat and "set to kill" on the command of your character who had
> her pinned).
> 
> b.  The magic item database had been corrupted and loaded with a
> version that was 3+ months out of date and a magic item type thing
> done to HER BODY was not there so the GM ruled she "left the item at
> home"
> 
> 5.  You brought up this whole SHIT a year ago when you heard she was
> resurrected a year ago and you were answered then the same way.
> 
> 6.  Greg was just using my character name as an example of a
> character who uses fireballs and Elesina had nothing to do with the
> discussion at hand.
> 
> 
> -Kris
> 
> ----------
> > From: Lyle H Janney <lhjanney@adpc.purdue.edu>
> > To: 'steve@ns1.cioe.com'; 'kris@cioe.com'
> > Subject: RE: Team Tactics
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 11:54 AM
> > 
> > Uh, okay.  Thanks, I guess.  But the question wasn't about my
> > adventurer.  It was about the disposition of the body that
> belonged
> > to an adventurer that was making a mockery of a mission that many
> > of the other party members where taking seriously (after all,
> Hirudo
> > were to be feared and despised), and who later impersonated a
> > Hirudo and afterwards lightning-bolted a third of the party in
> close
> > quarters (it's true, the world _is_ full of a**holes).  If Dan ran
> it, then
> > that's the way it is, but I thought for certain that the cadre of
> Ra priests
> > on board the ship had something to say about the disposition of
> the
> > actual body.  Then again, what happened _after_ that night is
> little of
> > my concern since my part ended when my character died as a result
> > of his enforcement of what he believed to be proper consequences
> to
> > the actions performed against him, and those few fellow
> adventurers
> > he trusted, by the aforementioned adventurer (despite my personal
> > feelings for Kris, herself).  But, I guess, I do appreciate the
> fact that
> > you guys discussed the option nonetheless.
> > 
> > Lyle
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Steve Ames [SMTP:]
> > Sent:	Friday, August 21, 1998 11:30 AM
> > To:	gmlist@cioe.com; 
> > Subject:	Re: Team Tactics
> > 
> > > PS Lyle the reason we kept giving examples of why it was
> necessary
> > > is because in your last post you were still calling it a crock. 
> > > Also Elesina was resurrected under Dan and I retired her.  She
> had
> > > no desire to adventure any more because the world was full of
> Ass
> > 
> > For what its worth Lyle... we had a pretty lengthy discussion on
> > resurrecting your character that killed Elesina or not. Aside from
> > the godlike thrill we get over holding someone's potential
> resurrection
> > in our hands, we felt that some benefit could be gained from your
> > resurrection. However in the end we couldn't justify the
> expenditure
> > since you weren't really all that useful of an adventurer (to us).
> > But beleive that I only speak the truth when I say that if we
> could
> > have justified it you would also have been resurrected... a dozen
> > times :)
> > 
> > 						-Steve
> > 
>