Re: A couple of crazy ideas...

[Greg Mowczko <mooch@ns1.cioe.com>]

Money and things. I don't have much to say about money except that a 
silver piece (rougeteran) is worth what it is worth due to the metal. 
If you take 5 silver pieces and melted them together the mass is worth 
5 sp. This mass though would only be accepted by someone with a scale 
and a dwarf to verify that it is a blob of silver. If I remember correctly 
1sp is about the size of a dime ( I'd like the size of a quarter better 
since a chest full of coins would be worth less since the value of the 
metal would be less but the volumn the same ).

> From: Wright Frazier <khelek>
> > Sean:
> > First, a rather simple, and elegant (IMO) solution to the money problem would
> > be local currency. Sure, there's lots of money around... but who knows if
> > it's real, or just something similar. Surest way to get around that is to
> > have a specific minting. This also makes it hard to throw around large 
> > amounts of cash by using GemStones. Picture this scene:
> > 
> *nod* I'd love to see this.  I believe we've already pretty much established
> that Rougterans are not well respected or liked in Geleia at the moment,
> this might change with time, but I can easily see their money being worth
> less than say coins minted in Liston or Kieron's Watch or Southham.
> Have different exchange rates written up for each city's money, and a default
> money(rougtero), also may be prices fluxuate a bit? who knows.
>
> It could be easily adapted and worked, and I like the Gem thing being
> run through the econ GM for finding their value and selling them.  No
> store keeper in his right mind would just take some gem a guy off
> the street handed to him, even if it had a signed and noterized
> letter with it(those can be faked).  Correction, he might, if he thought
> the gem was worth FAR more than the service.

Or he has a Jewelry skill and verifies it himself. I never cared for 
gems as coinage. I would like if a gem was proportionally worth less 
on Jearn than say here. (ie a 1 K diamond on Jearn is considered TINY 
and worth far less than we have here ). Once again this means that the 
overall size of that mound under the dead Dragon is worth a shload less 
than one would guess.

> > -----
> > My other idea is one that I've griped about for a while... Rating does not 
> > necessarily reflect the true power of an adventurer. Those with a bag of 
> > handy items and gizmos are far more powerful than someone with equal rating
> > and no special items at all. 
>
> Absolutely does it effect the power of a character, and I would like to
> see it effect the rating as well, the question is how?  Khelek at
> rate 90 with 3 items of fireball was FAR more combat powerful than
> Khelek at rate 140 after he'd lost those items.  A character with
> an item of multiple charges of fireball, or 1 or 2 per day fireball
> is way more powerful than the equivilant character with no such
> item.  Items should reflect power in some way.

I agree that an item on a person does make them potentially more 
powerful but there are some items not easily "ratable". An item of 
Fluency is either very usefull or of no consequence. Your item of Fireball 
has no rate value if the mission has no combat ( but then again most of 
your rating is worthless too). Its not that they aren't worth something 
its that their value is mission dependent. 

Similarly my rate 20 warrior is actually less then rate 20 since I decided 
to spend 3 times as many rates to get Witchsmeller then a mage. As a warrior 
I spent 7.56 rates where a mage spent 2.52 rates. Do I say I am a 
rate 15 ( 14.96 ) since that is the effective use of my spending?  No I say 
I'm rate 20 and get to face things meant for people 5 rates above me.  In 
addition that whole spell group probably gives me no "useable rate" since 
none of those spells are really combat related. Sure I can use witchsmeller 
to notice that invisible mage and counter the -8 to hit so it does have some 
combat value ).  At low levels my example isn't much but when you get 
up there your rate relates less and less to your effectiveness. Just some 
spew since people were talking ratings.
							Greg