Re: oops...more hirudo sh!t

[Wright Frazier <khelek@ns1.cioe.com>]

Grapple is the combat ender.  Its WAY over powered since nothing
gives defense against it.  You get grappled and don't break
free, you are dead, and if a marine is doing it, you probably won't
break free since he has that god aweful wrestling skill.

I know with my marine, I use grapple far more than I use a weapon.
By myself I've taken on 2 skilled warriors and kept them busy using
grapple to throw till I could get help, and my mod isn't that great.
If I'd have been a warrior, I'd have probably gotten buzzed down
in the 4 seconds it takes to attack 4 times because I'd have been
trying to do the same back.  Grapple is unbelieveably nasty, and
very easy to hit with.  I know of 2 people with a GDV over 14, and
that is Sillette(magic item, and China Pittenger's Auger), and
Difuge(Joe's Marine, again a magical item).  29 tiems out of 30
you are not going to have a GDV worth a flip, and so people
will hit you where you are weak to keep you down long enough for
help to come.

Granted it makes for an amusing scene to picture big warriors in
plate armor getting tossed around and held down while getting
a knife in the eye, but it isn't real fun when it happens to
you. =)

Wright

> Dan replies briefly...
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> Minor point. The Hirudo must succeed at a grapple to hold to use this spell. 
> The grapple defense is similar in probabilities although not exactly the same
> As a resistance check.
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