Re: tackling (was Re: anything i wsay..)

[Preston Wiley <pwiley@upin.com>]

Everyone, 

	Tackling, as the name implies, should be equal to the football
style tackle. As in football, it is usable in a combative situation.
Unlike football, the person being tackled could be carrying a sword(or
some other edged or piercing weapon). This could damage the person doing
the tackle if they do something wrong, plus it would be more difficult to
tackle someone with a sword without hurting yourself.

	So...Tackling should be allowed in combat. It should carry a more
difficult check if you are trying to tackle someone with a sword. If you
fail tackling someone with a sword, there should be some type of roll(or
not) to see if you hurt yourself( roll to hit plus a bonus, no roll just
automatic damage, etc.) 

	- Preston

> Don't forget that the tackler starts his free round laying on the ground.  
> There are very few skilled actions other than wrestling I would allow from 
> this position.
> 
> >Tackling, as written, is not intended for combat use. It designed to
> >start a fight with an edge. You tackle the person, use your free
> >round to deal a dirty blow (or pick a pocket or stand up) and _THEN_
> >initiative starts.
> >
> >This is not an in-combat skill. The silly restriction of a full
> >movement running start was a weak attempt to take it out of combat.
> >
> >Look at it logically. In combat, people are "combat ready". A simple
> >tackle is no longer enough to knock someone to the ground. You must
> >grapple to throw them to the ground. And then they are certainly not
> >going to be so suprised that you get a free round or even a free
> >action.
> 
> Here I must strongly disagree.  Tackling skill is just that...skill in using 
> speed, momentum and force to drive your opponent to the ground.  If you are 
> skilled in it, the fact that they see it coming, or are comabt ready has no 
> affect whatsoever.  Looking at it logically, a fullback with the ball tucked 
> under his arm as he goes through a hole is "combat ready", a skilled TANG 
> will still paste him.  Surprise has nothing to do with the free round 
> bestowed, it's the fact that the opponent suddenly finds himself flat on his 
> back gazing at the stars, when the blow lands.
> 
> -Rick
> 
> >
> >I counter propose that tackling be written to say that the victim
> >cannot be involved in melee.
> >
> >						-Steve
> 
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