Re: Blue Fields

[Greg Mowczko <mooch>]

> From: Wright Frazier <khelek>
>
> personally I think it should be relative to the largest mass that is
> large enough to generate its own noticeable gravity well.  This still
> allows you to do it on asteroids and such.  Note this could be faked
> quite easily with an earthforce spell to keep someone relative to your
> ship in interplanetary/stellar space.
>
> Wright

The problem with your example is you need to either know something about
gravity wells and how large an object needs to be to generate a "noticable"
one. Everything has a gravity well and everything effects everything else
but in most cases smaller than a moon or planet you don't know it is
happening.

What don't you want the blue fields relative to Wright? You say you want
to get as fine as an asteroid but not a boat?

I like Steve's version of #3 ( part of it was my idea ). It also allows
for blue fields in spaceships ( not that we have any but you know ).
I'm on a boat therefore I am relative to it. The fly on my parrot on
my shoulder is relative to the parrot. If the fly jumped off the bird
it would change its reletivity to that of the planet. So the best way
to get people off your boat is to blue field them as they swing over.
The rope falls away and they hang in the air.

						Greg
> > 
> > This was quality spew. Yeah, I meant relative to whatever is giving
> > you your motion. ie whatever you would be stationary toward... err..
> > or maybe whatever "inertial system" that your part of?
> > 
> > We are part of our univseral system, our galactic system, or solar 
> > system, planetary system and the boat we are riding on. You are
> > relative to whatever is most _specific_.
> > 
> > Hence if your riding a boat, your relative to the boat. If your riding
> > my shoulder on this boat, your relative to me. If your on a starship
> > in intergalactic space, you are relative to the starship. If your all
> > alone in intergalactic space you are relative to the universe.
> > 
> > That would be my type three answer. Type (2) is simpler and we just
> > always say relative to the nearest planetary mass. This means being
> > blue fielded aboard a boat means the boat moves, you stay put. Being
> > blue fielded in space a little way from Jaern means you become a fixed
> > orbit feature of our sky :)
> > 
> > I'm still better with (3).
> > 
> > 						-Steve
> > 
> > > Umm not necessarily If you had to be relative to whatever you were
> > > relative to when the blue field was cast this would also mean people and
> > > other objects in the vicinity so basically nothing could move.  I.E. if
> > > you were 5 feet above the boat in the center which also ment you were 3
> > > feet to the left of John and 2 feet to the right of Suzie, 6 feet in
> > > front of a Keg of ale etc.  None of these objects could change their
> > > location relative to the blue field so only mass movement in the exact
> > > same direction could be allowed (i.e. Suzie couldn't decide to go down
> > > into the galley for a snack).  If by item 3 you ment relative to one
> > > thing...How is that one thing chosen (biggest object in a blah foot
> > > radius or what).
> > >
> > >
> > > > My personal vote is for #3. But this does mean that if I'm carrying a
> > > > creature and then blue field it, it does stay with me until its un
> > > > blue-fielded... this could be used in munchkin manner.
> > > > 
> > > > 						-Steve
> > > > 
> > > > > This brings up a question. Why did the boat move out from around the
> > > > > blue field? There is reason to say it happens but the reason has failing
> > > > > points. You take that spot out of time it doesn't move but it does.
> > > > > Remember there is a relativity issue working here. If you blue field and
> > > > > don't remain relative to your immediate surroundings you would stay while
> > > > > your surroundings move simple. But the planet is also moving and I don't
> > > > > see blue fields shooting off into space. You stay relative to the planet
> > > > > you are on so why not to your immediate surroundings?
> > > > >
> > > > > Back with the old type-1 blue fields you could move them and they stayed
> > > > > relative to where you put them. They were indestructable but not unmoveable.
> > > > > Great party gag to blue field someone and then push them just off the ship
> > > > > and drop the spell. Splash.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only question is how is the relativity defined.
> > > > >
> > > > > 						Greg
> > >
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