Re: When Hirudo were voted on

[Greg Mowczko <mooch@ns1.cioe.com>]

> From: "Rick Myers" <leviathan_60@hotmail.com>
>
> In my opinion Hirudo are inherently disruptive.  A Hirudo is, by 
> definition, a High Priest of the God/Godess of Chaos and destruction.  
> It is a creature of Base Evil that lives to be disruptive.   Such a 
> creature does not play well with others.  It will not fit into, or 
> coexist with, an organized group...even one as psychotic as the average 
> adventuring party.
>
> Rick

Whoa! Automatically High Priests? I guess if you don't believe you owe
allegience to you creator. Obviously there are that many "church" functions
you need to attend.

They aren't Base Evil they are Base Chaos. They exist to cause chaos. 
Traveling around the world with a party pretty much meets lending to your
cause. The "evil" aspect of Rudri is the whole Blood thing ("do the blood
thing, do the blood thing") that they need to sustain themselves while
they bring chaos.

So less disruptive is not truly the word since they live for chaos. But the
levels they work on are different. A good roleplaying hirudo ( using the
background as reality ) would hide his hirudoism and only go on missions
he felt would lead to more chaos. Maybe even start spreading lies in a party
about others in the party. But this might get him killed which would be
against the whole chaos thing. The desires of Hirudo are not to cause their
own death nor are they nihilism ( personalities may vary of course ).
Less disruptive to the party? Yes. To the world? No. As people state they
overall will hide the rudri thing unlike Priests of Scrogg who just tend to
molest all the actors and characters ( unless they are "behaving" themselves ).
I personally have no aspirations to become a hirudo with any of my adventures
and if my best bud turned into one I wouldn't care much since I lived with
him before and becoming a hirudo doesn't change much but how you do your
thing. In character I know a certain High Priest of Ra that is friends with
a VERY powerfull Hirudo and they've known each other for quite the time
without it ever getting in the way.

						Greg



> >As for them being disruptive to game play, as I said before, they
> >are much less disruptive(not tom ention less powerful) than a priest
> >of Scrogg or Orus.  Hirudo don't start getting foul in their actions
> >that makes(I quote Rick) put up the decency curtain.
>
> Depends on the Hirudo ;) 
>
> >
> >What it comes down too, hirudo are going to be no more and no less
> >disruptive than any other sort of character.  If someone is going
> >to dick a party, they can do it with any PC and will do it with any
> >sort of character.  And if someone is more bent towards playing
> >that type of character, they can certainly pick far better/cost 
> effective
> >means of doing it.  The stalking/bludgeon combo or just plain 
> immobilize
> >come to mind right off the bat.
> >
> >Wright
> >
> >> > So, regardless of our feelings on this subject, it does not make 
> >> > sense to start out as a Hirudo.
> >> 
> >> No argument on that subject. I have always felt that way.
> >> 
> >> > As for any adventurer acquiring the dark gift....I believe that its 
> impact 
> >> > on the campaign is so large, and so potentially unstabilizing that 
> I do 
> >> > want to be involved, and approve, beforehand, of any such event.
> >> 
> >> Hrm. I've never understood these destabilizing effects and would 
> argue
> >> that priests of Scrogg are far more disruptive in play because they 
> are
> >> encouraged whereas Hirudo must hide under a cloak of normalacy... the
> >> mutos running around are more disruptive (air elemental -vs- Hirudo 
> for
> >> disruption?)
> >> 
> >> 							-Steve
> >> 
> >
> >
>
>
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