Re: Drowning, some compromise

[John Hogg <johnhogg@expert.cc.purdue.edu>]

Pop your responses to me ASAP, people, I'm hoping to have a workable
proposal by Saturday morning so it can be taken to AQ and have the GM's
that don't have E-mail comment on it before it's proposed for house rules.

On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Kris Ames wrote:

> Better, much better...

Ooooooooh!  Consensus!

> > Armor and Sinking:
> > ==================
> > Armor and swimming don't mix well.
> > 
> > Armor type:		Additonal f/rnd sunk
> > Clothing		---
> > Leather		1d6
> > Chain		2d6
> > Plate		3d6
> > Shield		+1d6 (plus unavailability of one arm)
> > Weapons or equipment
> > carried in hands	unavailability of arm holding equipment
> > 
> > Further encumberance MAY add dice to the rate the character sinks (GM
> > descression)
> 
> Umm didn't a group of us go out to the Wabash and watch Jevan and Kevin
> swim in serious chain mail (heavier than Jaren chain mail) and found it
> had little effect on their ability to swim.  Packs and cloth type stuff
> did cause problems though.  Based on this I don't think I buy the all the
> extra dice for armor.  I would give plate an extra 2d6 check more because
> of how it restricts your movements than the weight.  Remember Jaren armor
> is not as all covering as their medieval counter parts.  In all reality
> the robes/clothing would probably cause more problems.
>
1) Talked to Jeven by chance earlier today ... swimming in the chain
wasn't EASY, it just wasn't anywhere near as hard as swimming with the
army bag of about 100 pounds of stuff in it.  Especially when compared to
just swimming in the 40-60 pound chain.

2) Clothes,or the equivalent thereof are assumed to be worn under leather,
all that is assumed under chain, and all that is assumed under plate.

3) Don't want to screw with clothes inflation rules.  If I REALLY wanted
to, I could jump in the river myself, and assuming the clothes don't
disintegrate, splash enough air in them to not have to swim at all in
about 5 or so minutes.

This is already getting more complex than it needs to be.

Regardless, clothes do a passable job of trapping air in them.  Clothes
with metal on top do not.


> > Swimming Underwater:
> > ====================
> >
======== 
> > The GM determines the difficulty for the distance the character wishes
> to
> > swim underwater, +2d6 for those needing to breathe air, against
> Swimming.
> > 
========
> > Very short distances (GM Discression) may be swum underwater without
> the
> > 2d6 penalty for breathing.

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> 
> What about some distance limitations here
> 
> Such less than 10 feet - no extra check then 1d6 for every 20 feet
> thereafter.  
> 
> -Kris
> 

GM determination


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